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Helen McKay's avatar

Hi Fiona. Too much in this blog to comment on, so just one thing … You keep saying that ‘art-historians’ have given a date 850-950 for Sueno’s stone. Not really true, just one art-historian, and lots of other researchers and archaeologists who have disagreed and placed it much earlier, mid 700s likely. In which case your sound idea that we could expect it to come from the significant Pictish stone-carving group at Kineddar, especially as the stone is sourced nearby, fits neatly with this current dating. This reminds me of once as a wee young thing, staring down a microscope trying to draw the insect under it, and the ancient and beloved professor peered over my shoulder and said: You’ll be a good scientist one day – if you see what you’re seeing, not what you think you should be seeing!

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Katherine Forsyth's avatar

A v minor point but loom to right of seated figure on Kirriemuir 1 presumably indicates she is female (looks female to me!), also central position of brooch (rather than shoulder) at Wester Denoon, also suggests female (I'm sure there's an article in an old PAS Journal on this). Also, I think the Kineddar Symbol stone more likely to be 5th or 6th century than 7th, so predating vallum (church founded on site of ancestral burial ground? - a common pattern). As ever, enjoyed having my attention directed to this area - so much of interest!

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